Huge blog discussion right now on effeminate men in the church. Some blog posts have over 500 comments. Wow! If I did NOT have a life . . .  I would probably jump into the conversation :-]

Mark driscoll effeminate men

I dont want to say much. I have heard Mark Driscoll say similar things more than a decade ago when we were both a part of Young Leaders and used to do conferences together. Same stuff.

But I will say this:

In His divine wisdom and providence, God chose Jacob, the mommy-huggin’ apron-wearin’ kitchenboy and He did NOT choose Esau, the uber-hairy deer-hunting redneck!

‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’ Malachi 1:2-3

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  • Just love you so much, Andrew. ;^) Thanks for, well, everything you do and everything you are … like, mostly a breath of fresh air!

  • Exactly what I thought when I was re-reading Genesis earlier this year. Wonder what Mark would say to that? I like Mark, but he says some goofy comments that I think do nothing but undermine the good that he does.

  • Doesn’t sound like a very loving, inclusive sort of comment to make and what does it say about one of God’s creations? “Sorry Lord! But this should be a reject can we send him back?” – Don’t think so!

  • “God chose Jacob, the mommy-loving kitchen boy”
    God also at one point chose a donkey, but wasn’t telling us to be asses. 🙂
    “He did NOT choose Esau, the uber-hairy deer-hunting red-neck”
    Wait… ANOTHER male stereotype is the “redneck”?!

  • I often have a well founded suspicion that people who go on so much about macho stuff probably “protest too much”

  • Jacob being chosen and Esau not being chosen had nothing to do with with how macho or unmacho they happened to be. Good joke I guess, just a poor scriptural example. Though Mark could have worded himself a lot better he does hit on some good points.

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