Huge blog discussion right now on effeminate men in the church. Some blog posts have over 500 comments. Wow! If I did NOT have a life . . .  I would probably jump into the conversation :-]

Mark driscoll effeminate men

I dont want to say much. I have heard Mark Driscoll say similar things more than a decade ago when we were both a part of Young Leaders and used to do conferences together. Same stuff.

But I will say this:

In His divine wisdom and providence, God chose Jacob, the mommy-huggin’ apron-wearin’ kitchenboy and He did NOT choose Esau, the uber-hairy deer-hunting redneck!

‘Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.’ Malachi 1:2-3

Related: The Skinny on Mark Driscoll, Blogosphere ready for Mark Driscoll?


Andrew Jones launched his first internet space in 1997 and has been teaching on related issues for the past 20 years. He travels all the time but lives between Wellington, San Francisco and a hobbit home in Prague.


  • Jake T says:

    Thwap. Well played.

  • jasdye says:

    well, I’llllll be!

  • Peggy says:

    Just love you so much, Andrew. ;^) Thanks for, well, everything you do and everything you are … like, mostly a breath of fresh air!

  • Adam Fontana says:

    Exactly what I thought when I was re-reading Genesis earlier this year. Wonder what Mark would say to that? I like Mark, but he says some goofy comments that I think do nothing but undermine the good that he does.

  • Joanna says:

    Doesn’t sound like a very loving, inclusive sort of comment to make and what does it say about one of God’s creations? “Sorry Lord! But this should be a reject can we send him back?” – Don’t think so!

  • Steve says:

    “God chose Jacob, the mommy-loving kitchen boy”
    God also at one point chose a donkey, but wasn’t telling us to be asses. 🙂
    “He did NOT choose Esau, the uber-hairy deer-hunting red-neck”
    Wait… ANOTHER male stereotype is the “redneck”?!

  • yeah, saw that stuff today- just sorta rolled my eyes.
    I agree, well played.

  • wes says:

    I often have a well founded suspicion that people who go on so much about macho stuff probably “protest too much”

  • Jacob being chosen and Esau not being chosen had nothing to do with with how macho or unmacho they happened to be. Good joke I guess, just a poor scriptural example. Though Mark could have worded himself a lot better he does hit on some good points.

  • Julie says:

    Ditto what Jason said. That was nothin but a lame sound bite.

Leave a Reply