AYA Festival for Emerging Leaders

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AYA Festival, KL, Malysia, Feb 2-3.. I wont be there which is a BUMMER coz I always enjoy my trips to Malaysia. One of the speakers, Daniel Ho from Damansara Utama Methodist Church was on my Logos team in 1985. Good to see him still equipping emerging leaders after all these years. If you get a chance, attend the conference. Early bird registration until Dec 22.

HT: Keeping Sane who knows one of the bands

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Andrew Jones launched his first internet space in 1997 and has been teaching on related issues for the past 20 years. He travels all the time but lives between Wellington, San Francisco and a hobbit home in Prague.


  • Eugene says:

    hi andrew,
    thanks for visiting.
    i need to clarify that i have a feeling the conference may have little to do with the EC and as sivin mentioned on his blog (http://sivinkit.net/archives/002250.html), the word “emerging” is “…becoming popular for whatever reason…”
    it’s not EC, but that there is an emphasis on music and dance tells me these guys are not far off.
    sorry for any misrepresentation though!

  • andrew says:

    Eugene – if it is about equipping emerging leaders for the emerging harvest in the emerging culture of Asia, then it seems to me that it is about the emerging church in that area.
    why is it not about EC?

  • Eugene says:

    Andrew – if that’s a very generous and broad definition, then i agree it can very well be about the emerging church in this area.
    In that sense, I believe it has come rather independently of the generally known EC movement in the UK, US. That’s what I meant.
    Of course, no one has a monopoly on the word “emerging”…

  • Sivin says:

    I agree with Eugene here “no one has a monopoly on the word “emerging”…”
    Thanks Andrew for highlighting Malaysia on the wider “emerging” map again.

  • andrew says:

    i agree with both of you. and i hope the emerging church in malaysia is taking the appropriate shape[s]. i was a little disappointed on my last visit there (2002?) to find such a western style worship.
    i did manage to get away for some karaoke and that was cool.
    as for generosity – i have come a long way from when i used to dismiss much of the traditional “emerging church in drag” scene as being posers and not really dealing with fundamental ecclesiastic issues but now, in my older age, i am getting more generous and broad.

  • Sivin says:

    Thanks Andrew for following up on the comments. Frankly, the “western style worship” syndrome is very much alive. And much of it is very much USA & Australian (perhaps a little bit Singapore) influenced. I think we’re still in general lack confidence to tap into our own cultural resources but this could be part of the wider identity question we Malaysians wrestle with.
    For me, “emerging” is more of a mindset and ethos than “branding” even as I seek to think through, embody and experiment with methodological and theological concerns in a small “mainline” Lutheran denomination. 🙂

  • Sivin says:

    BTW, there’s an article here http://www.kairos-malaysia.org/index.cfm?menuid=51
    on “Malaysian Worship in the Twenty First Century?” which might interest you.

  • Eugene says:

    Hi Andrew,
    I’m still quite “new” to this and consider myself sympathetic to the emerging church but your point there about Western style of worship hits the nail on the head.
    It’s usually those outreaches in the interior who have not been touched by the glitz and hyper-consumerism that have managed to express their worship in a truly indigenous way.
    But arguing about forms appear to appeal less to me than the question of whether the worshipper worships the Father in Spirit and in truth irregardless of the musical forms or styles…. of course, this is only my two cents…

  • andrew jones says:

    yes but worshipping in spirit and in truth is the standard for all forms of church – residual and emerging. forms should not matter as much .. as you say

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