Emergent Conference at Biola

Biola-Talbot Emerging Church Conference. 400 people attended. David T blogged it, as did A-Team’s Murdoch, Melinda and Dan but in my opinion (as one who was not involved) I felt that Laura had the skinny:

“. . . I think the real issue in the emerging church is ecclesiology and missiology, not philosophy. Maybe that could be Talbot’s next foray into conversation with the emerging church.”


Andrew Jones launched his first internet space in 1997 and has been teaching on related issues for the past 20 years. He travels all the time but lives between Wellington, San Francisco and a hobbit home in Prague.


  • Timbo says:

    As one who was there, I think it would be more accurate to say that the real point of divergence between the emerging church and the folks at Talbot is in the area of philosophy. In other words, we don’t take issue with the ecclesiology and missiology of the emerging church, which are good for the most part, but we have major issues with the philosophy of the emerging church, specifically in its epistemology.

  • andrew jones says:

    thanks timbo
    i would be curious to know if you see any point of divergence between my philosophy and the folks at Talbot?

  • The faculty at Talbot are generally modest foundationalists (I don’t know one that isn’t), though not the strong Cartesian foundationalism that’s usually bashed. Their main concern, and mine as well, is that we understand the stories of the Bible to be objectively true facts- that the resurrection took place in time, space and history. It’s not a question of certainty, we can’t be epistemologically certain, but a question of whether it’s objectively true or only true for me or my community.
    I think you’ve at least affirmed the objective truth of the Biblical narratives, though I don’t think I seen you comment on foundaitonalism. From my selective readings of emerging church folk, I think perhaps 80% affirm this much. What do you think?
    As I commented on Timbo’s blog, I think there’s more a divide theologically than philosophically. One common strand I’ve seen emerging church material is the idea that praxis precedes theology (Which Bolger mentioned yesterday). That is a huge point of divergence from where most of us non-emergent folk stand.

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  • michael lee says:

    Talbot is strictly a Bass Ale and Samuel Adams school, while, as I understand it, you are more of a Toohey’s Old sort of guy …
    Other than that, I dunno.

  • Laura says:

    I was also there–and attend Talbot and ec stuff–and truly think the actual divide is theological and practical. Now, the discussion Friday–at least from the profs–was philosophical, but I think this has more to do with a cultural-philosophical language barrier than it does with actual differences. EC is not nearly as postmodern as the profs think and the profs are not nearly as foundationalist as the ec folks think. I’m glad Biola/Talbot entered the conversation, but I hope the next outing will be an actual conversation. (btw, thanks for the link, Andrew).

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